Ec On Craps Table
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Table Sizes
Roadrunner
After close measurement of tables I have determined that most tables are either 12 feet or 14 feet in length. This dimension is the length measured from outside chip rail to outside chip rail. The length from rubber to rubber is about 10 inches less. 11'2' or 13'2'.
The Proposition bets are found in the bottom-right corner of the Craps play table, and they include both single-roll bets, which are resolved with a single roll of the dice, like Yo (11) and Any Craps (2, 3 or 12), and multi-roll bets, like the Hardway bets. CRAPS How To Play. The person whose turn it is to roll the dice is the “shooter.” The results of the shooter’s rolls will determine the outcome. For all players. On the shooter’s first roll, or “come-out,” players wager by placing chips on either the Pass Line or the Don’t Pass Line. The first thing you should look for is the proposition betting box, which is placed in the center of the craps table layout (or the left side of the image below). Surrounding this area is eight C and E spots on each side of the proposition box. It is just two small circles with a C and E in each one.
I have never seen a sixteen foot table but have heard that they do exist.
I have seen an eight foot stand up table that only had one dealer on base and a stickman if it was busy. Ten footers are available from Gamblers General Store.
Hope this clears up some of the length confusion.
Casinos think that the larger table services more customers but IMHO a full 14 footer only gets 80-90 rolls per hour and a 12 footer gets about 100-110.
Mad Professor
Roadrunner,
Wait until you have to shoot on a 24-foot land-barge length table.
As Billy would say, 'You can't see the other end of it because of the curvature of the earth.'
By the way, they have one of those two-dealer 8-foot tables at The Boardwalk Casino in LV. They use a short stick and mini- dice. You can read about it in my 'Master of All...Well...Slave to Some' article. They used to have one at the Wild West Casino beside the Orleans Hotel in LV, but I don't know if they still have it.
Roadrunner
I have played on the 8 foot table at Wild Wild West (west side of I-15 on Tropicana) in July of 2000 and again in August of 2001. In between those time they put up a sign that says 'No dice setting No dice Banging'. Tried to quick set a couple of times and the stick dealer called me on it. (See 'The Black List' here on Irishsetter)
Heavy
A quick word on those mini-dice. The smaller the dice the more difficult it is to set and control the roll. Especially the control part. Seems that the smaller dice react more when they hit the rubber pyramids - and are easier to knock off axis. I am not sure if this is really a size or weight issue - but it IS an issue. Stick with casinos that used the full size 3/4 inch dice and you'll have better control.
RonInFla
Biloxi's Imperial Palace has 16 foot tables ... so long that you almost have to throw overhand to get them to the wall . I'll only shoot there if I can get the 1st stick right spot . Otherwise I play the don't and pass on shooting . I have had some excellent and profitable don't sessions there . Nobody seems to be able to control a throw from that far away .
Shooter57
At RAMA the playing area is 10 feet long with one foot at each end for chip racks so does this make it a 10 ft or 12 ft table.
Craps Basics: The Table
When you walk into a casino, you can usually spot the craps tables by the raucous crowds gathered around them. Just in case you happen in at a quiet time, just look for the long, usually green, tables with at least four casino workers standing around them. Here's the rundown on what to expect.
The Table
The craps table is covered in felt that is printed with a diagram showing the spaces for the types of bets. There is a center section where Hardways and One Roll bets can be placed. The ends of the table each have sections for the Pass Line, Come, Place, Field, and other bets. The ends of the table are mirror images of each other.
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Ec On Craps Table Top
Usually, the felt layout is green with white lettering, but sometimes casinos use other colors.